tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1591986847602925234.post6776239177810209085..comments2023-05-12T08:29:27.520-07:00Comments on Another Atheist: Dream big little god: SJT takes on parochalism and freewillUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1591986847602925234.post-19769891570206325962017-05-12T21:20:16.507-07:002017-05-12T21:20:16.507-07:00It's got nothing to do with the omniscient bei...It's got nothing to do with the omniscient being causing or forcing me to do anything. It's about the omniscient being's knowledge. This drives a wedge between what I *think* my choice-set is, and what my choice set *really* is.<br /><br />Take your example. Suppose when I'm deciding to go on holiday, I think my choice set = {Tahiti, Samoa, Fiji}. You however, are omniscient and already know I will go to Tahiti. My real choice set is {Tahiti}. This set has one element. I can "choose" to do anything I want, so long as I "choose" Tahiti.<br /><br />The problem is, this isn't a real choice anymore. Anytime you can only 'choose' one thing, you are not really make a choice anymore. Kaimataihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11711401322378210834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1591986847602925234.post-12827424070632731882017-05-12T20:57:31.503-07:002017-05-12T20:57:31.503-07:00If I took a Tardis into the future and saw that yo...If I took a Tardis into the future and saw that you were now living in Tahiti, would simply knowing that cause you to make the decision to move? I'm really sorry I don't understand this argument and hate go agree with SJ. Everything else was brilliant.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686263098035096852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1591986847602925234.post-26409398206889186662017-05-02T20:18:41.939-07:002017-05-02T20:18:41.939-07:00It's a common theist trope to emphasise the co...It's a common theist trope to emphasise the common roots of their founders. Mohammad was a humble and mediocre merchant, Jospeh Smith was a humble and mediocre conman, Jesus was a humble and mediocre carpenter... <br /><br />Rather than being amazing, it reflects the historical marketing strategy of going for mass appeal by ending unpopular features of Judaism (dietary restrictions, circumcisions etc). Kaimataihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11711401322378210834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1591986847602925234.post-62183353745848652352017-05-02T03:22:25.123-07:002017-05-02T03:22:25.123-07:00that *you* mentioned that *you* mentioned SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12701088659106844049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1591986847602925234.post-4490796410760129872017-05-02T03:20:19.392-07:002017-05-02T03:20:19.392-07:00I notice you've added more rebuttals. Thanks f...I notice you've added more rebuttals. Thanks for thinking this through. I will need to respond to all, yet I'm a bit busy with work these next few weeks. In many of your responses I see that you've alluded to Jesus' humble roots. Isn't that exactly what makes Christianity so amazing? It demonstrates God's great power to overcome the odds. I also noticed that mentioned that if God wanted you to know Him, He would make Himself obvious. Well, I know you'll delete this when you read it but He is working through me to get to you. 😉SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12701088659106844049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1591986847602925234.post-61729088828950171672017-04-03T13:29:30.318-07:002017-04-03T13:29:30.318-07:001) not one of my premises was that your god contro...1) not one of my premises was that your god controlled my choices.<br />2) the objection is based on the consequences of omniscience. <br />3) Give me one decision I could make, that contrary to your god's foreknowledge I am going to hell, could change that fate. Explain how I could ever deviate from what your god knows I will otherwise do. <br />4) You don't have any choice, hence free will, if you can't deviate from the single course of action at any moment, your deity knows you'll do.Kaimataihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11711401322378210834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1591986847602925234.post-75380677762449039702017-04-03T09:14:31.320-07:002017-04-03T09:14:31.320-07:00How about unblocking me on Twitter? I miss our cha...How about unblocking me on Twitter? I miss our chats. In the meantime, I appreciate that you at least showed all of my words. I stand by my rebuttal of yours. I still don't think you understand the distinction between all knowing and all controlling as God knows how you'll act but He doesn't control your actions.SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12701088659106844049noreply@blogger.com